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Reminded us of that as well, when mcauliffe did eke out that victory. these things are relevant but not always predetermined. i'm curious your reaction to all of the above, cecile. >> look, i think it's clearly mcauliffe is going against historic trends here. it's always tough for in virginia, for the party that's in power to win the virginia race. so put that aside. i think headed into 2022, everything alex said is right. the republican party has got to figure out how to diversify their base and maybe glenn youngkin has done a tiny bit of that in virginia. but look, if -- going forward, looki...

>> this is a great evergreen story that every white house deals with. i worked in the bush white house a long time ago. and every time the president would make a trip, our critics would say how much is this trip costing? it costs a lot to move the president around. but it is in the taxpayer's interest to make sure the president, is president at all times, he has the security apparatus he needs and the military and communications apparatus he needs. i don't begrudge trump going down to his place at mar-a-lago on the weekends to get some r & r, meet with foreign leaders. when he travels, taxpaye...

States. >> all right. so -- typically i -- i dislike sort of, you know, the political commentary about whether or not you are running a good or bad campaign because in a certain way, if you win everybody thinks you ran a good campaign. if you lose everybody thinks you ran a bad one. even though you may have won great one and lost. right? but this moment where he says the reason that you should elect me is because i'm a good ceo, good decision maker and can turn around companies so we have asked how do you turn around the campaign. his response is -- doesn't need a turnaround. he can't diagnose...