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But my hope is that he will just shed light on the facts. and explain why it is that he felt pressure, where the pressure was coming from. whether he thought there was a quid pro quo or not. >> earlier today, brad smith one of your colleagues was on cnn talking about impeachment and here's what he said. >> i have enough information. i will sit in on the meetings because it's historic. but the public testimony is everything you need. you have the transcript. you have the chief of staff statements. it's obvious that-l the preside of the united states was trying to force the ukraine to help his p...

Mistake, did they miscalculate by not fighting harder for this? >> everything brad said is fine and good but it doesn't deal with the answer why won't republicans do something to extend unemployment insurance. house democrats brought it up before they left. it was blocked by house republicans. this is an issue that polls very well with republicans and democrats. in fact, there was a poll in five republican districts that showed 60% support for it even in john boehner's district. economically, it is a good issue for jobs. in fact, the cbo said that if you extend it for three months, it would cr...

Promised to be the open and transparent president is anything but that. bill: got it, brad. julie, do you have issue with the off the record stuff? >> i do. is bizarro friday i agree with everything brad said. i'm completely appalled this is off the record. if my fellow democrats were honest with themselves if it was the bush administration doing they would be up in arms. no excuse for us not being up in arms. eric holder is doing this. first of all i'm incredibly appalled what is going on with ap and james rosen going back. going forward i'm glad they're taking a look at it, but brad is absol...

Supposed to look at the bureaucratic perspective and not partisan or political perspective. anybody under the scrutiny of the irs knows the nightmare that entails. again, we need to get to the bottom of this. everything brad said i second. it's something we need to look very carefully. >> heather: if there were no political bias were only conservative groups targeted and were these certain groups of people in an office in cincinnati? >> i don't believe that. i don't think bureaucrats on their own would have taken a political bent as julie points out. they tend to be non-political but the appoi...