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>> look at how it's working in virginia. you don't think that's going to echo in virginia. >> of course. >> kids ttoday is a big day for parents. kids getting the strong approval from the fda. i know i give you a hard time. get the messaging straight, don't talk about mandates, talk about the message of safety. what's the data? why does it show it's okay for kids? why do you believe it's an important decision to get a vaccine when kids don't seem to get that sick? how do you give a parent like me the comfort to know this is more reward than risk for my child. do it, do it consistently and do i...

The comfort to know this is more reward than risk for my child. do it, do it consistently and do it everywhere and do it until it makes sense to people or you will lose and this issue will be right in the basket of reasons to fear government along with everything else covid. >> this is how i feel, though. the same thing they told my parents. in order for don to go to school, you have to have the measles and mumps and rubella shots. that's just the easy thing for me. just do it because you're supposed to do it. >> i thought you were talking about when they told you mom you were going to have to...