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Mexico case, he was accused of flying victims across state lines, which would make that federal. he has multiple jurisdictions looking at him, investigating him. one person who knows what epstein did and what epstein should be afraid of is epstein himself. >> dana: emily, what about this new mexico story? because now you have new mexico all of a sudden they're going to do this? the accusations have been out there for awhile. did they not pursue this because there was a previous nonprosecution agreement with epstein? >> that could be one thing. there could also be the public perception and the ...

Believe occurred. so we just don't know. and i think it's going to be about whether the special investigator can use the information to barter for something else if that information is even there. eric: yeah, and we have the meeting with donald trump jr. and others with the russian lawyer who apparently has kremlin connections, but then apparently nothing came of that -- >> nothing came out of that. everything eric then they've got the other issues of the internet stuff which they've denied any connection with the kremlin. >> right. eric: here's ty cobb, the president's coroner -- one of them ...

Fourth of july, i happen to think america is great and that we have tremendous freedoms. i don't want to live in china or uzbekistan. i'm going to come visit you when you end up there. >> the united arab emirates is more free than the united states of america, i'm concerned -- >> as long as you value freedom, why do you work to destroy it? >> they don't allow grumpy old folks like we have here -- >> if you value freedom from force, why are you always proposing ways to expand that government force? >> exactly. >> what are you talking about? >> obamacare. everything eric's talked about. >> you g...

Which is a little bit of what this sounds like. which to me is chris brown territory for my lawyers don't want me to really say what i did. how are we supposed to accept a genuine apology for being sorry when a person can't articulate what they did and why it was wrong. it took them several days to say i'm sorry for, quote, what happened. >> there's a "time" magazine article here that i read. i want to read a quote from it, keli. it says deen made a pile of money off a certain idea of old school southern culture. in return, she had an obligation to that culture, an obligation not to embody its...

>> you lit a fire cracker in a crowded room. phoney scandals? that's another topic. john, i have books on my desk. it's spending money, slush funds and bottled waters. anything they want to spend. all they have to do is put in the books and the taxpayer pays. >> eric, i think that is a wrong mentality. government has got to do something. we have got to do something. what is government. it is a gun. it should be very judicious.