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Lindsey graham said last week there would be holy hell to pay if jeff sessions were fired. plus, i mean she has a bit of whiff of scandal in the background, too. she tried to be attorney general of new york. and lost significantly to another cuomo. and there was a whole series of issues around her background and raised in that. this is not going to happen. >> how about, rick, the idea of needing people like you, voices within the party, to call out to the president and his team to say, stop doing this? stop putting this out there. stop undercutting our own, stop trying to pit people against on...

I don't agree with everything jeff has done and i think made a mistake on recusing himself and agree with the president and since attorney general he's done his job and he's done it in spite of the criticism. i don't know too many people to put up with that. as you said, he's very strong support on capitol hill. and the opportunity for, you know, for making a decision on jeff sessions before not after he was nominated and it's time for the president to move on and focus on getting a peace treaty with north korea. >> all right. next topic. >> i can't believe rick -- >> go ahead. if you can't be...

If the idea is draining the swamp this is driving over the swamp this a private plane. >> i agree with everything jeff has said particularly the fact that the president is wear in recent days of just how damaging this is for him. that is what he cares about. what this impacts the public perception of him and his administration. at the beginning of the week peep were telling me white house they thought price was going to survive this. the president is not enamored of tom price in all of his cabinet picks that's not his favorite. the story in politico i think it was two days ago about him taking...

Jeff, what is going on with secretary price? there were ethical questions about him when he was in congress. the idea that he wouldn't want every eye to be dotted and every t to be crossed is unbelievable. >> well, the fact that he got confirmed at all when he was trading stock in companies that his committee was regulating in congress is pretty astonishing in the first place. but also, i mean, the budget of the united states is about a trillion dollars. this is only a million dollars. if there is one thing that people are going to remember about tom price it's the fact that he loved these pri...

Is the big news and just if i may say this, i think we're going to see trump testify under oath about a minute after we see his tax returns. he would be just so wrong to put himself under that kind of potential problem. >> matt, do you agree? >> yeah, i agree with everything jeff said. i think, number one, the media does hype stuff, obviously. when you have 24 hours to fill, and you're competing, you know, vigorously for ratings against other networks, you end up hyping things. pretty bad for democracy overall, but it's the world we live in. having said that, i think this administration is in ...