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Said, joe, don't take it personally, but i wanted to hear what the hell you had to say, and left. one of john's major campaign people is now with the senate, with the governor of ohio. was on this morning. i happened to watch it. he said that biden/mccain had this strange relationship. they always seemed to have each other's back. whenever i was this trouble, john was the first guy there. and i hope i was there for him. and we never hesitate to give each other advice. he called me in the middle of a campaign, and would say, what the hell did you say that for? it was not an issue. like you just...

Because we'd sit there and we'd talk to each other. and i can remember the day when i came out to see john, we reminisced about it. it was in '96. we were about to adjourn for what we call the caucuses. there is a luncheon once a week that the democratic senators have lunch together and all the republican senators. and we both went into our caucus and, coincidentally, we were approached by our caucus leaders with the same thing. raised the discussion. joe, it doesn't look good you sitting next to john all the time. i swear to god. same thing was said to john in your caucus. that's when things ...

The investigation is still going on. and by the way -- hold on. >> but don, is there anything there now, don? >> hold on, yesterday's testimony. i'm just informing the viewers, don. yesterday's testimony was not about collusion. it was about why the fbi director was fired, so -- and remember -- [ inaudible ] within that 34 -- he has a 34% approval rating. it's a small part of the country, just so you know. >> look, everything john is saying about the base, it's probably absolutely true. and you know, he talks about his callers. well, i spent four hours today, and i'm going to tell you, in four...