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They've seen their working conditions get worse in ways recently. and so some of these fights are about trying to undo sacrifices from the past or trying to prevent new concessions. these are in many cases defensive as well as offensive fights. >> jane, you've been a practitioner and organizer for decades. what do you see here happening? what's your answer to the "why now" question? >> i think a couple of things. one is i agree with everything josh just said. i actually think it began before the pandemic. i think in 2018, we saw the beginning of a serious like "we don't want to take this anymo...

Protect mostly himself. if manafort were pardoned, he would have to testify. he could not avoid that. he would lose his fifth amendment privilege. and that would be a detriment to donald trump. now it's true donald trump pardoned joe arpaio for contempt of court in not following court orders so he could do the same in this case if manafort refuses to testify and is held in contempt. but at some point i think the republicans will grow a spine and the trump voters by say, enough is enough. we can't let him keep going this way. we need to get the truth out. so i do agree with everything josh said...

Will grow a spine and the trump voters will say enough is enough. we can't let him keep going this way and we need to get the truth out. i agree with everything josh said earlier about the concerns about the trial. i would be shocked if there was a verdict before three or four days. there are 18 counts they have to consider. juries take their responsibility very, very seriously in a complex case like this. it's not surprising that there is no verdict. >> no verdict at least until monday or longer than that. while this process plays out, this is a jury that is not sequestered, is that correct? ...

Of court. he has pardoned people who have violated very serious laws. and i don't know that he would pardon anyone here because it doesn't do him -- that is donald trump -- any good. and donald trump seems to protect mostly himself. the paul manafort were pardoned he would have to testify. he could not avoid that, he would lose his fifth amendment privilege and that would be a problem for donald trump. now it's true that donald trump pardoned joe arpaio so he could do the same in this case if manafort refuses to testify but i think the republicans will grow a spine and they will say enough is ...