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That that is good for democrats. >> women, look if there's something good for democrats in here it's that shutting down the government is bad for everyone. and again, as budget bills go they appropriated funding for 11 of the 12 agencies believe it or not, that's kind of a record for these guys. all they've been doing are these budget patches called continuing resolutions. they're doing a little bit better than they used to. but frankly, that's a low bar. the extent to which democrats had to swallow these republican measures i mentioned, i think, will be harmful for the country. >> maya there'...

>> i sure fear it is. it doesn't seem like we're heading toward thoughtful policy discussion which is is what we need given we have tremendous economic challenges. it's the last-minute scrambling. >> i very strongly agree with everything maya just say. i want to point out that when it comes to this dodd-frank repealing parts of the financial reform that part of the legislation was written by citigroup. it was -- they wrote the lines of legislation that they're voting on now. that is to me a complete violation of the kind of process we ought to be going through. >> hasn't that been moe titus-- ...