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The case. that takes a lot. >> so, jim, i'm suspecting that where norm sees a mosaic you see an inkblot test. where people see what they want to see. >> first we see a denial by her lawyer. and again we don't know the facts here. >> the lawyer said he would have never been discussing destruction of documents. obviously he's given her cover from what would trigger a statute. let's say she denies it. >> let's say@it's in the context of press conference. remember her job at the time. everything needs context. and the context of this just doesn't match up to obstruction in my view. she's the press...

Who's a very seasoned veteran of these wars, ran for the hills. he was scared of obstruction, he saw it coming, and he quit. boy, that takes a lot. >> so, jim, i'm suspecting that where norm sees a mosaic, you see an ink blot test where people see what they want to see. >> well, first we see a denial by her lawyer. and, again, we don't know -- >> well, the lawyer says she would have never been discussing destruction of documents. obviously he's giving her cover from what would triga statute on her. let's say, of cose, she denies it. >> okay. let's say it's i the context of press conversation a...