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I have news for everybody, get over it. there's going to be political influence in foreign policy. >> he's just admitting the whole ball game. anyway, despite mulvaney's performance at that press conference "the new york times" reports mulvaney has told associates in recent days there's no way for trump to fire him in the midst of the impeachment fight, the implication being he knows too much about there president's pressure campaign to force ukraine to provide incriminating information about democrats. let me start with my friend because i know how you cover this stuff. this is incredible, an...

Situation. this is -- this is a wild, extraordinary, almost bizarre case. what struck -- what kind of strikes me as different was the plea deal that was cut many years ago in florida, which effectively gave epstein a slap on the wrist and kept everything quiet, including from the victims. now so many years later, it is very extraordinary to have these kinds of charges brought so much later. one of the things we'll be looking for is how much is new here. are there new allegations? are there different allegations? that will be an important thing to look for. >> won't one thing that is new possib...

The human suffering of real refugees, they will embrace the president's policies, clear out to those who are abusing our immigration system, and ensure that whoever comes means us no harm, and that's the angle. joining me now is counter terrorism expert aaron: along with investigative reporter sara carter. you've been doing some digging for us in his pittsburgh terror plot, what news can you tell us? >> there is nothing new specifically to report from law enforcement, they're keeping everything quiet. what has been circulating as the fbi did some great work in thwarting this potential attacker...

Refugees, they will embrace the president's policies, clear out to those who are abusing our immigration system, and ensure that whoever comes means us no harm, and that's the angle. joining me now is counter terrorism expert aaron: along with investigative reporter sara carter. you've been doing some digging for us in his pittsburgh terror plot, what news can you tell us? >> there is nothing new specifically to report from law enforcement, they're keeping everything quiet. what has been circulating as the fbi did some great work in thwarting this potential attacker. he came over the border at...

Paying off the russians to keep everything quiet. so if this was part of a broader pattern in which he had almost $1 million to play with during the election, what else did he use the money for? >> and katie, i mean does this all hinge upon the fact that the president may not have nope why he was paying over $400,000 a month to michael co-en? how plausible is that? >> two points to respond to that question. one, as a lawyer we're not given slush funds of $1 million to take care of stuff. we're not. you're not acting a as a lawyer when you're doing that you're acting as a fixer. that's importan...