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It is like one day mlk will be used to sell cars and mattresses. so my question for you, rene and also dr. carter, what should we be celebrating juneteenth so that it is not completely captured by marketing and branding like we see these terrible ads about the san jose chargers, how can we celebrate this holiday so it doesn't become a commercialized mess? >> maybe we should start running around and talking about the war on juneteenth. if suddenly it gets co-oped. what i don't want is a version of what has happened to pride celebrations in this country. i'm old enough to remember when pride cel...

Rights. no substitute for freeing black people from racism. and if we fail to recognize and challenge the difference, we'll keep getting symbolic crumbs while starving for justice. joining us now is rene graham from the best globe and dr. carter, professor of political science at howard university. rene, thank you for your article. you captured exactly how i feel. but i want you to speak to something here. there is a concern that we often hear sort of publicly and politically that complaining about something like juneteenth shows a lack of appreciation for the people who fought to get the hold...

Graders give martin luther king speeches. but juneteenth, kids will learn about in school but the legislature now trying to pass a new law which is not only banning critical race theory but trying to argue that any teaching about american history or slavery that treats slavery other than an theme would be outlawed. what do we need to counter this racism and this attack on real american education that we see across the country? >> i have to say thank you for having me and i agree with everything rene said. many people are trying to do this holiday but trying to skirt around why we actually have...