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But they would have to hold the country, and that- could result in the kind of counterinsurgency, i with the body bags heading back to moscow, that putin does notl want to see. what the west has realised i is putin's assets are in place. he has been building up these forces over| the last few days and weeks. the assets are in place - in order to launch the kind of invasion that could subduel the country, but that does not mean putin has decided he is going to invade, . and i think it's a veryl critical point to make. ijust heard a former uk- ambassador to washington saying that he still cannot...

There from jake sullivan. just in the last two hours, boris johnson telling his counterparts of poland, germany, italy, nato, the european commission, and the united states, that he now fears for european security. that was not even a message we were hearing from the british governmentjust a few hours ago. ben wallace was saying, actually, cooperation had gone from below zero to above zero, or about zero to above zero. not huge progress. whether it has been enough, the next few days will show, but this is the first time we have seen the united states actually put a timeframe on when they think...

Henry, back to you. someone i spoke to recently about ukraine, an expert on the country, was talking about the jaw war rather than the war war — the talking — so is that what you think putin is trying to do, ramp up pressure, extract more concessions? we know that putin is a very calculated leader, and he knows full well that the minute there is an invasion, everything resets, right? some of the concessions he has been hoping for in the talks with us and nato, which he has not gotten yet, there at least have been some moves towards saying that there would be a negotiation over the security...

And the government in kyiv is being undermined daily by misinformation by russia, and by morale—sapping through all this talk of invasion. so certainly putin has achieved something with dragging this crisis out as much as possible. latika, a suggestion in all the diplomacy that ukraine adopts a neutral position, do you think that, ultimately, that is where the diplomacy might be heading, even though that, on the face of it, seems contradictory with the idea of ukraine determining its future? it has expressed that desire to, at some point, join nato. yes, i think that ukraine has made it very...

There are boots on the ground in ukraine, all of that goes off the table and any of those advantages or gains he would hope to have made would completely evaporate and get blown up, so i think he does realise that he needs to have pressure in order to get people to the table and he is willing to keep turning the screws until such time as that at least gets to some point of satisfaction for him. it doesn't mean that there won't be an invasion, but he still has time to let this play out and see if he can wrest more concessions from the west. ok, well, let's move onto next topic in this dateline....