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queen elizabeth ii. those are the headlines on bbc news. you are watching bbc news. now on bbc news, amol rajan interviews ian hislop. even by recent standards, 2022 has been a tumultuous year in news. russia launched a war in europe. her late majesty queen elizabeth ii died just months after her platinum jubilee. and britain went through three prime ministers and even more chancellors. one man who's tried to make sense of it is ian hislop, whether on tv or as editor of private eye's fortnightly magazine and latest annual. i visited his office for a conversation not just about recent...

Its the playground of snow, and gold. And she was at its heart. Beautiful, privileged. Magnetic. Whether it was a taxi driver or her movie star friends. She had a very genuine connection with people. But what happened one night in her secluded chalet sent shivers through this glamorous ski town. Oh my god. No. I was going into shock. Hyperventilating. Murdered in her sleep. It was a crime of rage. Where would investigators start . An exboyfriend . There were some stories about a jilted lover. Her new tenants . They were a couple that had been pushed over the edge. Her old friend . I just remem...

Not...not liz truss growth. this is real growth, and essentially the pandemic was very good in terms of our recovery because, you know, everything shut, you know, the train stations, the airports, all the independent newsagents, we suddenly had nowhere to sell the mag, erm, and we had to pivot i believe we say. that's the phrase. yes, i think that is the phrase in the industry. in the industry. that's the parlance. so we're selling a lot in supermarkets now and, erm, we sell a lot of subscriptions. so, i mean, for us, we found that people were really keen. they weren't news bored at all. they ...

Of our recovery because, you know, everything shut, you know, the train stations, the airports, all the independent newsagents, we suddenly had nowhere to sell the mag, erm, and we had to pivot i believe we say. that's the phrase. yes, i think that is the phrase in the industry. in the industry. that's the parlance. so we're selling a lot in supermarkets now and, erm, we sell a lot of subscriptions. so, i mean, for us, we found that people were really keen. they weren't news bored at all. they were very keen to find out what was going on. and you said many years ago that for you the best digit...

It isn't really. i mean, not compared, you know, to the last 60 years, erm, and thejob is much the same. i remember explaining this to an american academic. i said, "our basic motto is the great philosopher mary poppins, "that a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down." very, very wise words. and that's what you're doing, erm, with, erm, comedy. i mean, yes, these events are grim. yes, it's...it's...it's bonkers and ghastly. but it is funny. the absurdity is there. and that's what we try and do. how is the eye doing financially, commercially? commercially, well, i mean, we are, erm, we ar...