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Deputy chief of staff that would be joe hagan in congestijunctioh don mcgahn and we know from press accounts that as early as june both of those gentlemen had a sense from the fbi investigation that there were these allegations, which were then substantiated by november. at that point kelly was on board. they almost certainly told kelly about that and i think the real question is whether it's june or november, whether they kept that secret from the president. i find that not credible at this point but even if they did, they still sat on this information for now two to three months without taki...

This will -- could eventually undo the stock market because the stock market relates very heavily to -- reacts very badly to higher interest rates. >> right and at some point, richard haass, china and other kouc countries that buy our debt will stop buying it at low interest rates. they'll say "there's too much of a risk here, you're projecting two trillion dollar deficits in one year" which is more debt than this country built up over its first 200 years. at some point they'll say you have to raise your interest rates if we're going to be buying american dollars. you're talked about this in y...

Do it than you're right, senator kennedy, ben sasse, lindsey graham once in a while and a few others. anyway, everybody stay with us, we have more on this developing story ahead on whether john kelly survives or whether he's booted out. we're going to go live to the white house where the man in charge of the white house is -- and in charge of actually calming the waters at the white house, of course, we're talking about general john kelly is now at the center of the storm. plus, the man who john kelly replaced in the white house, reince priebus, is speaking out. why he's saying the preside...

Shh! this new day. looks nothing like yesterday. roads nowhere to be found. and it's exactly what you're looking for. everyone has a thing. that binge watch over the weekend thing. that back from the dead or robot-cowboy thing. or maybe it's watching satisfyingly-satisfying things. organic avocado on everything thing. doing it yourself or tagging a friend thing. more checking-in or checking out things. like faaaaaaaaaar out of this world things. far out. more revolutions in the making thing. that play like a girl thing. is it a '4 your eyez only,' thing. more of a 'no role modelz' thing. that ...

Women, then the 10, 11, 12, 15 women came forward with sexual harassment claims against him, well, suddenly the questions are, well, let's go through each one of these women, mr. president. do you believe them as well? >> any time he opens the door to taking these allegations of abuse, sexual harassment seriously then we're in the space where his own conduct becomes the thing that people will be talking about. he probably knows that. that's probably one reason for the insistence. due process, let's wait until the facts are in. what's astonishing to me, joe, about the rob porter story, the way ...