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So upset about this. Especially reportedly saying, giving him advice not to resign, saying that he could weather this. Again, this is an accused Domestic Abuser. Right. You have to question kellys judgment. And, you know, people inside the white house say, look, many of them like kelly, some of them dont like kelly because He Silos Everything and keeps them away from the president. But one thing most people seem to agree on is that he doesnt have any political sense. And, you know, he doesnt understand political . Gloria, listen. No, in terms of i dont want to be insulting. No, but im not sayi...

>> well, the system is ultimately informed by at least in the obama white house, the deputy chief of staff, that would be joe hagan, in conjunction with don mcgahn, and we know from press accounts that as early as june, both of these gentlemen had a sense from the fbi investigation that there were these allegations, which were then substantiated in november. at that point kelly was on board. they almost certainly told kelly about that and i think the real question is whether it's june or november, whether they kept that secret from the president. i find that not credible at this point, but eve...

Deputy chief of staff that would be joe hagan in congestijunctioh don mcgahn and we know from press accounts that as early as june both of those gentlemen had a sense from the fbi investigation that there were these allegations, which were then substantiated by november. at that point kelly was on board. they almost certainly told kelly about that and i think the real question is whether it's june or november, whether they kept that secret from the president. i find that not credible at this point but even if they did, they still sat on this information for now two to three months without taki...

The white house grappling tonight with news about a top aide facing domestic abuse allegations. sources saying senior officials knew about it and didn't do anything. i want to bring in max boot, a senior fellow at the council on foreign relations and the author of "the the road not taken." max good to have you on. i first want to get your take on the disturbing allegations of dmakz against rob porter, chief of staff john kelly coming to his defense. at one point kelly called porter a man of true integrity. what are your thoughts. >> well this is appalling. but it's part of a pattern with the t...

The white house grappling tonight with news about a top aide facing domestic abuse allegations. sources saying senior officials knew about it and didn't do anything. i want to bring in max boot, a senior fellow at the council on foreign relations and the author of "the the road not taken." max good to have you on. i first want to get your take on the disturbing allegations of dmakz against rob porter, chief of staff john kelly coming to his defense. at one point kelly called porter a man of true integrity. what are your thoughts. >> well this is appalling. but it's part of a pattern with the t...