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So upset about this. Especially reportedly saying, giving him advice not to resign, saying that he could weather this. Again, this is an accused Domestic Abuser. Right. You have to question kellys judgment. And, you know, people inside the white house say, look, many of them like kelly, some of them dont like kelly because He Silos Everything and keeps them away from the president. But one thing most people seem to agree on is that he doesnt have any political sense. And, you know, he doesnt understand political . Gloria, listen. No, in terms of i dont want to be insulting. No, but im not sayi...

Suggesting it was cnn's job to force them to. but is it cnn's job? charlie kirk is a founder of -- he joins us tonight. charlie, thanks so much for coming on. what does this reveal do you think about that news channel? >> well i think this is one of the few mistakes that cnn has made that is actually really helpful. is it cnn's stated position now that they are going to try to administer medicine under the threat of punishment? you know, the analogy is make usually when talking about incentives. what is the best way to propel human beings to get to a desired objective? as it cnn's position now...

Americans who don't want to take this particular medicine. suggesting it was cnn's job to force them to. charlie kirk is a founder of -- he joins us tonight. charlie, thanks so much for coming on. what does this reveal do you think about that news channel? >> well i think this is one of the few mistakes that cnn has made that is actually really helpful. is it cnn's stated position now that they are going to try to administer medicine under the threat of punishment? you know, the analogy is make usually when talking about incentives. what is the best way to propel human beings to get to a desir...

Same? >> again, of course. but i think that we should be -- well, i'll ask you another question. how come -- >> i'm asking the questions. >> i know. i know. but how come we're not asking more often the women, would you be willing to put a man on the ticket? >> when we get to that point, i'll ask you that question. we'll be right back with more from cnn's democratic presidential town hall with governor john hickenlooper. don't go away. ar the way they subscribe to movies. we don't follow the naysayers. ♪ ♪ bookers book now and ask their boss later.. [do you want breakfast or no?] [definitel...

First time in the country's history, we were going to close two coal plants and replace it with wind, solar, and batteries. and in so doing, so no natural gas for the time's when the wind's not blowing. but with those batteries and the wind and the solar, for the first time we'll close two coal plants and the average electric bill for the consumers is going to go down. and i think that's -- [ applause ] >> governor, we're going to sneak in another quick break. we will be right back with more from cnn's presidential democratic town hall with governor john hickenlooper live from atlanta. stay wi...