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Them. you don't have to ask. >> it is not just you. >> remi, you said you agree with everything tom said. just get out. >> you know i would never say that. i would normally never say that. >> i know. oddly i agree with you too, tom. i agree with you in that her definition -- the definition of optimism they are using is wrong. you are dead right about that. you're welcome. >> you're savoring it. >> you were a life long optimist until the premiere of the show "naked and afraid." do you now go through life naked and afraid? >> i am always afraid, rarely naked. i will also say it is important to p...

Them. you don't have to ask. >> it is not just you. >> remi, you said you agree with everything tom said. just get out. >> you know i would never say that. i would normally never say that. >> i know. oddly i agree with you too, tom. i agree with you in that her definition -- the definition of optimism they are using is wrong. you are dead right about that. you're welcome. >> you're savoring it. >> you were a life long optimist until the premiere of the show "naked and afraid." do you now go through life naked and afraid? >> i am always afraid, rarely naked. i will also say it is important to p...

Likely downed by a surface to air missile sa-11 in eastern ukraine. because of the technical complexity of the sa-11 it is unlikely the separatists could effectively operate the system without assistance from knowledgeable personnel. thus we cannot rule out technical assistance are from russian personnel in operating the systems. >> what's striking is she's taking it further than the president did. we talked about the circumstantial evidence the president laid out. here's samantha power from his administration taking it farther saying, hey, the separatists couldn't have done it on their own. t...

I don't see what is going to change. >> do you face this from, yeah, it looks like everything tom and i are saying is probably true, but don't you have to plan for the prospect that they might actually launch one of these missiles and they probably can't get to the u.s. or get to guam or japan or something like that and what do you do? >> you plan for it. but the odds are extremely low because the north koreans know if they were to do such a thing, this would not be just the second korean war, but it would end with north korea being a separate sovereign state. you do it for another reason, to ...

And the south koreans know, in a weird sense, nobody wants north korea to collapse. >> one thing from the chinese, they love north korea so much, they want them to be two of them. that's what they said about germany. until they get out of that mode, i don't see what is going to change. >> if you with are in the security council, it looks like everything tom and i are saying is probably true. but don't you have to plan for the prospect that they might actually launch one of these missiles and they probably can't get to the u.s. or get to guam or something like that, or japan? what do you do? ...