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>> well, you know, i think normally and in normal situations, a recession or tough economic times would lead to, you know, more -- would be beneficial to more populist candidates like warren or sanders. but these aren't normal times. i think -- i've been struck over the last couple months how often people say they want a steady hand. they want d.c. experience. they want -- they want things to calm down as opposed to, you know, sort of a lurch to the left or, you know, big radical revolutionary changes. so i think it's hard to predict. i think all of them -- i agree with everything vicari said ...

Normally and in normal situations, a recession or tough economic times would lead to, you know, more -- would be beneficial to more populist candidates like warren or sanders. but these aren't normal times. i think -- i've been struck over the last couple months how often people say they want a steady hand. they want d.c. experience. they want -- they want things to calm down as opposed to, you know, sort of a lurch to the left or, you know, big radical revolutionary changes. so i think it's hard to predict. i think all of them -- i agree with everything vicari said on where democrats are. i t...