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Different regional aspects with afghanistan, china, iran. those folks are fighting for each other, for one another. like toward the end of vietnam, i agree with everything c.j. said. >> we -- >> there are soldiers, is there are people who have fought in afghanistan who have come back and said, maybe it's time to end this war about we now have a situation when we get out of things, we create vacuums that leave space for those very groups that ali is talking about. while it's tempting to say, let's get out of all these things, there seems to be a new natural interest that has developed in not ha...

Parks sometimes and you got to use geckos running around on the wall. for me, that is sad. because this is not a holiday. we walk into the hotel room and everybody comes in. and we wait for c.j. >> i didn't know whether c.j. would realize this was a trap. >> hello? >> the other police officer sat next to me on the bed and her head is close to me so she can hear everything c.j. is saying. maybe at that point c.j. got nervous or maybe he knew -- >> yeah. >> c.j. had a suspicion that i wouldn't come and i would be stuck with 45 years. i'm panicking big time.

Wall. i remember that because when i was little we used to go to game parks sometimes and you got to use geckos running around on the wall. for me, that is sad. because this is not a holiday. we walk into the hotel room and everybody comes in. and we wait for c.j. >> i didn't know whether c.j. would realize this was a trap. >> hello? >> the other police officer sat next to me on the bed and her head is close to me so she can hear everything c.j. is saying. maybe at that point c.j. got nervous or maybe he knew -- >> yeah. >> c.j. had a suspicion that i wouldn't come and i would be stuck with 45...

Use geckos running around on the wall. for me, that was quite sad because this is not a holiday. we walk into the hotel room and everybody comes in. and we wait for c.j. to phone. i felt nervous because i didn't know whether c.j. would realize this is a trap. >> hello? >> there's a police officer sitting next to me on the bed and her head is really close to mine so she can hear everything c.j. is saying. maybe at that point c.j. got nervous or maybe he knew. >> yeah. >> if c.j. had a suspicion that i wouldn't come and i would be stuck with 45 years. i'm panicking big time. i tried to make ever...

Use geckos running around on the wall. for me, that is sad. because this is not a holiday. we walk into the hotel room and everybody comes in. and we wait for c.j. >> i didn't know whether c.j. would realize this was a trap. >> hello? >> the other police officer sat next to me on the bed and her head is close to me so she can hear everything c.j. is saying. maybe at that point c.j. got nervous or maybe he knew -- >> yeah. >> c.j. had a suspicion that i wouldn't come and i would be stuck with 45 years. i'm panicking big time. i tried to make everything seem okay.