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Elections. >> well, mika, i agree with you. and even though the administration might want to cite civil service rules as it relates to some of those people, i mean, last night they fired the one guy they could fire, steve miller, who is a political appointee, so they could just summarily fire him. >> right. >> there are rules down there in the thick of the bureaucracy but if i were the president i would try to ignore them and move quickly, very quickly to that source. to answer your earlier question about whether we're going to look back on this as a fool's errand or something that changes the...

>> nice mower. >> good job. >> one thing i'll say about the irs, donnie, i think you're wrong about the impact. 2014 if you think republicans aren't going to use this as confirmation that big government is out to get you, you're wrong. >> let me push back. i do think they'll use it. i think it is going to back fire. in reality it's a couple rogue guys. this is not the president. it doesn't go up to the president. he is going to throw anybody overboard -- >> you heard the crazy stuff these people say about the president when they're clinging to nothing. >> you're right. basically what it is goi...

Operating for several months, perhaps a couple years, with no net in terms of support up on the hill for him. is there a sense in the white house, off of what jay carney was asked, is there a siege mentality within the white house? do they feel particularly threatened by the development of all three things right now? >> i think underline that point that you're making that just yesterday only a couple within 100 hours of all the scandals sort of happening at once you saw the headlines saying d.c., the nation's capital has turned on the president. that would imply that they were already on his s...

The irs scandal spreads. acting commissioner steven miller had been aware of the agency's effort to put greater scrutiny on conservative groups as early as 2012. miller told staffers in internal memo that he'll be departing in early june when his acting assignment ends. but in a news conference last night president obama announced miller's resignation and described his own outrage over the whole issue. >> the misconduct that it uncovered is inskewable. it's inexcusable and americans are right to be angry about it, and i am angry about it. i will not tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency...

Resentment of government. they're taking up the guns. it's the evil irs. it's the revenuers and all that stuff. you hand that to mitch mcconnell, it's an extra 50,000 votes in rural kentucky. it just is. >> so the president, what can the president do, joe, right now, to meet this concern? i think it's a big one. i think this has got some legs. what does he do about the fact he's got, perhaps, bureaucrats, perhaps somebody at the high level of bureaucracy of the irs knew about this two years ago and had to flak it? remember they were denying it a year later after they knew about it in '12. knew...