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Have to resist this urge to say nutty things. in the past when republicans get into this situation, everyone wants to out do themselves or out do their fellow republicans and they say nuttier and nuttier things and it turns what could be a political winner into a political loser because people start to feel sorry for the president or the democrats are going after him. >> and prominent conservatives, jim, have come out and said things like that. charles krauthammer said let's drop the watergate nixon impeachment jail, drop that talk for now until we have more details. if that becomes appropriat...

Government efficient. he wants to make government work. he wants to bring credibility back into government. listen to his commencement speech at ohio state two weeks ago. it was about this issue of trying to get rid of cynicism in government. and this is the most cynical way that government can get used, the idea of politicizing the irs. so i think that they've under reacted to this the whole time. >> chuck, if he had come out and said i'm getting rifd the acting commissioner and x, y, z, eight other people. >> yes. >> who were also involved in this in cincinnati, wouldn't that have been much ...

How can you do that if you have people in the irs targeting conservative groups? it has literally brought us down into the trenches. >> if this is going to affect his presidency i think that is exactly how. it drags the president and the white house. >> exactly. >> more into partisanship and, unfortunately, even further into a position where the country becomes ungovernable. i mean, this could change the second term of this presidency because you could have people out there in the country who are saying, i knew i never trusted government anyway. i particularly never trusted this white house. t...

Investigating itself. so get this over with. get this irs scandal behind us. get rid of the people who were involved. get them out. and move on. >> and do it in such a way that it makes it possible to pass some sort of legislation. i mean, let's hope this doesn't derail immigration reform. because it has the prospect of doing that, to get anything, to get growth, get the kind of investment we need in the country. the two sides at some point have decided they have to work together and this just gives the republicans i think an excuse not to. >> we need to focus on things like education and jobs...

We get hysterical in the media. come election time november 2014 voters are going to care what they always care about. their pocketbooks. >> okay. >> that simple. i also think vote aerts thrs at point are so anesthetized. you know, benghazi. maybe the democrats are trying to shift the message. wow. that's what politicians do. we get very hysterical. to the average person out there trying to live their lives none of this stuff sticks. >> i disagree. i think one of them will. michael crowley, if one were to stick which would it be? >> i think the irs scandal. >> yeah. >> resonates with americans...