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Fix that needs to be done. >> a learning moment. >> it doesn't happen anymore. >> okay. well, we have howard dean still, right? oh, here you are. let's turn his mike up. that'll help, too. howard, final thoughts from howard dean before you go. >> my final thoughts are that it's not as drastic as chuck says. >> what? >> there will be hearings and there will be hearings. there will be hearings on all kinds of things. there are hearings now in benghazi and they have no traction. as i said before the irs is a risk as long as it doesn't get to the white house i think howard fineman was right. it's ...

It was late yesterday evening dealing with the irs scandal. i felt good about it because he was doing the thing that he doesn't like to do which was get out in front of something and be emphatic and forceful and say it's going to get fixed. it's going to get done and then walked right out the door. i still have some questions but overall point of ew, willie? >> well, in one scandals that are plaguing the white house. he release the e-mails on benghazi, accepted the resignation of the acting head of the irs and called for a media shield law regarding the ap story so he finally personally encoun...

Of something that americans really cherish. i think that, you know, benghazi, i think people find a little confusing. as donnie noted the polls suggest people are not that riled up about it. frankly i'm not sure if you ask the average american whether they think it's more important on the ap case, you know, a counterterror investigation versus the right to the press, i'm not sure how it breaks down. it may not be so good for the press. >> that one only sticks with us. mark barnicle do you agree it's the irs? then i'll get into the news of it all. >> the irs certainly of the three has longer le...

Independence we have here in this country and it is shocking to americans that this would come to light in the way that it has. >> there was an effort to bring the power of the federal government to bear on those the administration disagreed with. in the middle of a heated national election. it actually could be, could be criminal. >> my question isn't about who's going to resign. my question is who is going to jail over this scandal? >> all right. at a house judiciary hearing attorney general eric holder said the justice department would look into whether any false statements made by the irs ...

Good morning. the ap leak case, benghazi, the irs investigation as well. you say health care actually could still be more damaging for the president. what do you mean by that? >> well, you think about 2010, the last election where republicans had success, it was because of health care and it was because independents in particular felt the government was doing too much, was being too intrusive. what brings all of these scandals together is this feeling of incompetence in the federal government in the ability to do complicated things. republicans will hold a repeal vote for the obama care plan t...