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They ticked off a whole bunch of issues. they sort of left out health care completely, and i said, so what does health care look like? well, they said, as long as everything continues to get a little bit better, a little bit better, they think they can somehow ease things. ultimately, no matter what, they would like to be talking about anything other than health care. they prefer nsa reforms which is unpopular. >> they like this fight because they want credit for a good year, right? >> they do. the economy has gotten so much better over the course of the presidency, and the administration hasn...

Me when i was secretary, that there needed to be discussion and open dialogue about the balance between privacy and our privacy values and security. and remember, these are both important values. there is a balance, a right balance, to be struck here. mr. snowden just decided to go off on his own, and he did exact quite a bit of damage, in my judgment. >> so you're no longer homeland security secretary, so i can ask you all those political questions i wanted to ask you for so long when you were a politician. we're talking about the statement of gay rights in america, same-sex marriage and some...

I asked someone what their january would look like, and they ticked off a whole bunch of issues. they sort of left out health care completely, and i said, so what does health care look like? well, they said, as long as everything continues to get a little bit better, a little bit better, they think they can somehow ease things. ultimately, no matter what, they would like to be talking about anything other than health care. they prefer nsa reforms which is unpopular. >> they like this fight because they want credit for a good year, right? >> they do. the economy has gotten so much better over t...