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List, officially released by the department of justice, and these are not angels. we are talking about, and most firearms case, guns that were being used in connection to drug trafficking crime. does that not speak of any hypocrisy to you? >> i think on the surface, and you're a lawyer, you know this, these cases are complicated. a lot of these cases -- let's not forget with this is a result of the crime laws in the early '90s and late '80s when we were tough on crime. now we know better. we've be h bipartisan effort on the right and the left to examine our criminal justice system and see how ...

Department of justice, and these are not angels. we are talking about, and most firearms case, guns that were being used in connection to drug trafficking crime. does that not speak of any hypocrisy to you? >> i think on the surface, and you're a lawyer, you know this, these cases are complicated. a lot of these cases -- let's not forget with this is a result of the crime laws in the early '90s and late '80s when we were tough on crime. now we know better. we've be h bipartisan effort on the right and the left to examine our criminal justice system and see how we are targeting individuals. whi...