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Primary season? >> i think we know that donald trump is unconventional in every way, so we shouldn't read too far into what this endorsement means because this is a total jungle in this ohio race. what we have been seeing is the monkeys emerging and these monkeys being these outlandish candidates that say things and do things that are not just offensive by conventional wisdom, but they really are almost in a race to see who's going to sound better for trump's base of vote. and so, inevitably, the former president had to make an endorsement. there's no doubt about it. he had to do it. was it go...

Power that large corporations have. they have become vastly more pop ewe list. we see periodic outbursts. that is not where the heart and soul of the party lies today. hillary clinton is just not there. she has had long standing relationships with sort of new democrat types that have come from wall street or long ago made their peace with wall street and believe it deserves a central roll in economic policymaking. she is constrained both for those reasons and because she is likely to raise tens of millions of dollars from wall street interests and large corporations there are limits to the deg...

Of grass roots energy. it's within the gop. occupy and a lot of the pop ewe list economic uprising had energy and never found a foothold within the democratic party thus far. >> there are plenty of issues we have not really heard elizabeth warren on that you could find space to the left of hillary clinton like the use of drone war far. do you see something in there that is as strong as that difference that we had in 2008 between barack obama and hillary clinton on the iraq war? >> i don't. there is clearly energy around this issue and you can imagine, you can remember when a republican preside...

Hillary has a great personality that people are attracted to. and how many democrats went along with the war. >> and barack obama's credibility on that combined with the candidacy is what separated him. i think if barack obama had been a pro war and pro wall street guy it would have been a different primary. that goes to whether this hangover goes to populism. in the tea party they have a lot of grass roots energy. it's within the gop. occupy and a lot of the pop ewe list economic uprising had energy and never found a foothold within the democratic