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People sheltering in the plant but civilians in there too asking for an ex traction, asking for someone outside of the country to come and extract them. what are the chances that could happen because if not, i think you can only fear the worst. >> do we have clint? we may not have -- we may not have clint. julia, let me go to you, julia. the situation in mariupol is so tragic and so repugnant, i wonder how russian tv is explaining it and explaining essentially elimination of that city to its audiences. >> well, they've been telling their audiences from the very beginning that this is all the w...

Made whole with any negotiation is the fossil fuel industry itself and people like mansion and his family who profit from fossil fuel ex traction. this is putting specific economic interest ahead of the health of the planet. it doesn't matter how much they smile next to each other, joe mansion wants to create a bill that will enhance the interest of coal companies and make climate change worse because that's what is in frankly his family's financial interest. and that's just it. >> well, i'd add one little element to it. i think you're right that that's it and that's also something that a lot ...

>> no, i do not. >> have you seen any reduction in russian behave kwhror? >> no, i have not. >> reporter: the nsa director also testified this morning that he predicts there will be a change in the way that we view cyber activity traditionally. these cyber actors have tried to infiltrate u.s. systems and steal information so they can have an advantage economically or even militarily. but the nsa director predicted that there are more probably damaging changes ahead. >> we see data manipulation on a massive scale. most cyber activity data has been penetration and ex-traction. >> like changing v...