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Of all the challenges bernie sanders imagined when he ran for president, it wasn't going to be like how do i differentiate myself policy-wise from hillary clinton? yet somehow she has just rushed toward him in a way. what do you think we're going to see from hillary clinton as a hillaryologist? >> i think she's probably going to present herself as the practicing pragmatic choice. she's going to go and bring out her bona fides and suggest she has the experience to navigate opposition and obstruction in a way that somebody like bernie sanders doesn't. it's going to be a stylistic -- i agree with...

To talk about what's different about them. >> here's a perfect exam p pl. i want to play this exchange which i loved from "meet the press" this weekend about bernie sanders' sort of political philosophy. take a listen. >> the other day i noticed you said, you know what? don't use the word socialist. i'm going say i'm a progressive. are you pushing back on the idea? >> no, not at all. look, when one of you republican colleagues gets on the show do you say are you a capitalist? have you ever referred to them as capitalist? >> are you a capital snift. >> no. i'm a democratic socialist. >> i love ...