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Either sanger is a terrible reporter, or he spoke to someone in that room, so that means it came from president obama. >> bob: took 18 months to write a story. >> eric: bob, he quoted the president. >> bob: it's not hard to quote the president out of a meeting. >> greg: can i make a number of very, very points. howard kurtz reminds me of the friendly cartoon turtle. you know what i'm talking about? >> eric: cecil? >> greg: i think so. leaks have an unusual conflict. rewards the reporter and potentially harms the country. go back to carl bernstein. beware of witch hunts. it makes leaks. that we...