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Admit it when he's in front of congress. he won't say, look, this is what i did. i wrote a document in code which only certain people could understand in order to put one over on the american people. not that you're an arrogant guy. we knew that. it's that you're a liar. >> when he was at the university of pennsylvania, he said we use a lack of transparency to their advantage. he was asked about that transparency yesterday. here is what he said. >> very clear i do not think it was passed in a nontransparent fashion. reasonable people can disagree with the merits of these policies, but it is co...

>> dying declaration. excited utterances. all of that will probably come in. >> that statement, what does it say, i can't believe he shot me. >> like i haven't done anything to justify what this man just did. frankly, if he was armed, come on, greg, if he was armed he would have shot the cop to begin with, and he didn't. he didn't shoot reeves. anybody that has a weapon, they would have used it, not thrown a handful of popcorn at someone. >> i don't know that he would have shot him because it was such an innocuous situation. all over texting. >> you're allowed to defend yourself if you're in i...

Let's talk about this young lady on the telephone. i understand that the prosecutor has finally interviewed her, and i was glad to know her mother was there. this will be very trying on this child. she would become the voice of trayvon martin in that courtroom. she is the person who had him on the telephone. and if she can bring the emotion of his fear at that time, i think she will speak for the dead. and it's very rare that you have the opportunity to do that. there will be some hearsay issues. whether or not she should be able to get it in. the prosecution will have lots of theories on the ...

We talked about robert zimmerman, the father, as a potential witness. i don't know if he would be able to testify because everything he says is hearsay. there are some theories that you could get over it in terms of an exception to the hearsay rule, excited utterances. spontaneous conversation, however, from what he has described, it seemed like his son was just having a conversation him about the incident and that would be hearsay. >> star jones, thank you for coming on the show. >> you got it. >> coming up, since when did it become all right for a united states senator to call the president ...

>> gregg: back to the bob ward verdict, several hours ago, the millionaire developer who lived in the very same posh florida neighborhood as tiger woods. a jury finding him guilty today of second degree murder in his wife's 2009 death. ward facing up to life in prison when he's sentenced in november. here now, judge jeanine pirro, host of "justice." good to see you. as always. he didn't say it just once on the 911 call. he said it repeatedly five times. in your experience, as both a former prosecutor and a judge, the excited utterances, the statements made initially by a suspect are the most a...