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That. i think at some point the president needs to come out and make it clear that this individual is not someone that he would want to be associated with. the fact that he wore this hat is something that obviously we can talk about, but the original question that was asked to me was wouldn't the president react differently. it is a completely different set of circumstances. i have no problem denouncing this individual. clearly he was disturbed. clearly what happened here was wrong. clearly there were mistakes made in our government that we should all be asking questions about and account can ...

Now, it is true that rick gates played a fairly senior role on the trump campaign and did work on the inauguration, and then went on to work for tom barrick for a little while as his right-hand man. barrick is one of the president's top advisers and a long-time confidante. since the campaign, as we reported at "the daily beast" over the summer, rick gates is a funny figure in the trump world because president trump actually -- maybe hate is a strong word, but if not hate really dislikes rick gates. he never really respected him or cared for him during the campaign, and there's a good chance he...

Once said, but it is not the main point. the main point is not to have to let the russians get all over our electoral system and run it until we indict one or two people for one thing or another. we've got to stop what they are doing, and that takes a different approach than just indicting and convicting people who have screwed up in some way. >> well, i guess, number one, you have to admit that this happened. national security advisor h.r. mcmaster said the russia launched an influence campaign in 2016 was incontrovertible. the president tweeted, chastising his national security adviser for m...

Meeting, whether there was any sort of collusive agreements. so it could tie back to that so-called collusion work-stream, but that's speculation at this point. we just don't know whether the facts support it. >> i want to ask cnn political commentator and doug hyde to the conversation. doug, when charges with first announced against manafort and gates, the president made sure to point out on twitter they're related to his time before the trump campaign, again dealing with ukraine and some tax evasion, other issues related to being foreign lobbyists. is it possible this deal is totally separat...

Otherwise as far as i know against colluding. what there is is a bar against conspiracy. that, of course, would be a serious matter. but that hasn't been claimed here as far as i know. >> can you think of any reason why the president wouldn't use the words that his national security adviser used and put a point and an ex practi-- exclam point on this. >> i don't care what words he uses but what he does. if all sorts of vehicles drive on whatever they want, one of two fuels let's say, electricity or ethanol, if they can switch fuels when they come up to the filling station they can drive the pr...