>> because you need businesses for jobs, it's that simple, without an employer, you don't have a job. >> you are wrong but one thing that's very, very fundamental, it is the middle income and poor people who actually through their spending create jobs, businesses are not going to invest in new jobs until there are people who are purchasing, that's one of the problems we have had through the last 25 years, that's why the recovery have been as slugish as it has because the middle class and the poor don't have any money. >> that's what we'll be talking about as they try and try to pass something....