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Paul: so let me understand this. president obama could, by an executive act and using prosecutorial discretion, they said, as the justification, he could do it, but trump can't rescind it? >> well, that's exactly it -- paul: why not? >> that's one of the many logical inconsistencies in their argument. they're saying that president obama used his enforcement discretion to shield these 1.7 million dreamers from deportation, and under the law -- or under rules, regulatory dhs rules, they are also allowed to get work permits. so it cites a provision of the law that grants the president wide or ver...

Paul: so let me understand this. president obama could, by an executive act and using prosecutorial discretion, they said, as the justification, he could do it, but trump can't rescind it? >> well, that's exactly it -- paul: why not? >> that's one of the many logical inconsistencies in their argument. they're saying that president obama used his enforcement discretion to shield these 1.7 million dreamers from deportation, and under the law -- or under rules, regulatory dhs rules, they are also allowed to get work permits. so it cites a provision of the law that grants the president wide or ver...

In gun violence and that is a suburban atlanta district. you've got educated sort of upper middle class voters that we are just losing right and left. and if that's the trend that continues, we will be a minority party for a very long time. >> very interesting. margaret brought up something interesting, executive act. donald trump, no hesitation using that in the past, bump stocks, that's kind of how they acted. if the president would go the route of executive action, do you think that takes the pressure off congress or do you think it's something different, that it actually provides congress ...

First the census and the citizenship question about it all. abby phillip is at the white house. she's joining me now. abby, the supreme court blocked the administration's attempt here. it's still being fought out in lower courts. what then are you learning about this next move? >> well, kate, this is the culmination of a week's worth of scrambling on the part of the president's team and the department of justice to figure ot how they can potentially get the citizenship question onto the 2020 census, despite the fact that this has already gone to the supreme court and the court has said their r...

>> and he's tied to florida governor rick scott. >> no. >> that is someone else. >> but this is an ideologue who believes in a strong president and would put restraints on mueller because his role is to supervision the investigation. >> could he file mueller. >> in theory, he could. and there is a scarier possibility this ad call -- the act called the vacancy act to allowing the president to put in place anyone confirmed by the senate. so in theory, the president could put ben carson -- there is a question about whether the executive act applies which -- when someone is fired as opposed to whe...