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Where people who were kind of in commerce with guns but who weren't at gun shows and so forth they were slipping through the cracks and they could have filled a trunk load of guns in indiana and ship them into chicago and sell them to a bunch of 13-years-old. that's what the president is trying to stem. who disagrees that that is a good outcome? >> nobody disagrees about background checks. that's not the issue. i mean that is something. for a guy who talks the talk you got to walk the walk. what that means is don't come out and recommend as executive action something that most states are alrea...

>> this ties up people that were kind of in commerce with guns but who weren't at gun shows and so forth. those people were kind of slipping through the cracks and yet those people could have filled a truckload of guns in indiana where the gun laws are lax and ship them into chicago where they're a bit tighter and sell them to a bunch of 15-year-olds. that's exactly what the president was trying stem. who disagrees that that's a good outcome? >> nobody disagrees about back ground checks, that's not the issue, for a guy who talks the talk you got to walk the walk, that means don't come out and ...

>> this ties up people that were kind of in commerce with guns but who weren't at gun shows and so forth. those people were kind of slipping through the cracks and yet those people could have filled a truckload of guns in indiana where the gun laws are lax and ship them into chicago where they're a bit tighter and sell them to a bunch of 15-year-olds. that's exactly what the president was trying stem. who disagrees that that's a good outcome? >> nobody disagrees about back ground checks, that's not the issue, for a guy who talks the talk you got to walk the walk, that means don't come out and ...

Narrow view of america and that they need to broaden it politically in order to stay relevant as a party, but they can't seem to change it because it's too engrained in their dna. and that's why when we have these personality flare-ups, like a todd achin moment everybody it is it's just this one thing, but it ties back to an agenda and that agenda is at odds with most americans. remember how few people voted in 2014. america did not vote for a hard right turn. america largely didn't vote. >> and i think that's important, jess. but congressman, what i'm saying here is the politics of it. becaus...