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Of our constitution. our founders gave the president article 2 powers to over prosecutors. he does ultimately have the ability to fire mueller. what we did in the 1990s was strike the special counsel regulations so if there is any high level interference with a special counsel it has to be reported to congress and sunlight has to be shown on t. >> but those regulations, i want to go back to the first thing you said under the constitution. could he just say, i here by, i as president of the united states hereby relieve robert mueller of duty, and that be effectuated tomorrow? >> well, he could ...

Ability to fire mueller. what we did in the 1990s was strike the special counsel regulations so if there is any high level interference with a special counsel it has to be reported to congress and sunlight has to be shown on t. >> but those regulations, i want to go back to the first thing you said under the constitution. could he just say, i here by, i as president of the united states hereby relieve robert mueller of duty, and that be effectuated tomorrow? >> well, he could either do that or he could say, i remove the special counsel regulations which are an executive branch creation so they...

Executive branch creation down there. i mean, it seems to me that the only option he has in relation to the people in those places is to actually go there so that we can see what his enforcement procedures are actually creating. >> right. he can do that and he can say we've done a bunch of other things behind the scenes. the foreign policy was there weeks ago. vice president biden went down to central america and did these meetings with he woulds of state and continued to press the foreign policy case that they've got to get control and help carry this message in every way they can that these ...

There, but no one had any idea how bad it was until that presidential spotlight went down there. >> i think that's right. another point about a reporter being able to see the situation firsthand in terms of the policy that he could impact, also visiting one of the detention centers where children and young families are right now and this would give him an opportunity to speak to them about their journey and about the reasons that they fled their country to come to this country. i think that's exactly some of the imagery that he is fearful of having out there, because the conditions in these de...