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General does his work, investigating the former president donald trump. democrats want access to mr. trump's tax returns but the attorney general merrick garland is choosing to preserve executive branch power by keeping the documents out of sight, not so far at least aiding congressional inquiries, let's get to evan perez. why? >> well, john, if you talk to people inside this building they tell you that this is what normal looks like. what the voters wanted. a lot of people in washington wanted a return to normal, and according to them, this is what normal looks like. the justice department tr...

>> they thought trump would protect the presidency. they thought trump would be thinking of future presidents and that he would not give away that transcript. he would not reveal for the other branches. he wouldn't give the legislative branch any of what he was doing. he would protect his executive branch power. they thought he would close it down, not reveal it. they thought when that happened he would make himself look guilty. >> i think this was a big gamble by the trump administration. they said to republicans in effect we'll put this out. we want you to defend it. i think it's hard to def...

The president himself and his team about are we going to cut payroll taxes, are we going to cut capital gain taxes or something to use our power, the executive branch power, the induce the economy. larry kudlow is saying not now, maybe later. >> what the president is trying to say is there's no near-term tax cuts for stimulus or fighting recession. we don't have that point of view. we think the economy is in sound shape. we're not going to tamper with temporary tax cuts of any kind. we're looking at what i call tax cuts 2 .0. that's a long-run project and probably will come out at the campaign...

Rein in executive branch power and give it back to congress once and for all, i'll work with you today. emily, what do you make of it? >> i think it speaks to the challenging position that some republicans are in. there is a lot of concern about the president. thom tillis, a republican from north carolina put out a statement today, where he said he didn't support the declaration, and outlined a number of scenarios where a democratic president would take advantage of the use of executive power like that. but at the same time, the president's base does make up part of their own, so, they have to...

Had changed his mind. said no. i'm not going to sign this and we got record breaking shutdown. for him to say that he's not listening is very hard to believe. >> emily, let's talk about your line of work and covering congress and we've watched them come around. people who have some age on them remember when tip o' neil controlled the house. we watched democrats with breathtaking discipline come around. here is mark meadow, the head of the freedom caucus, republican, north carolina. now declaring that the potus declaration is legal and well founded of the national emergency. to my democratic co...