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What is that all about? >> the funding of obamacare. there are new questions being raised add finding hhs secretary kathleen sebelius may be scrounge up private donations to keep promoting the website. bill: the president accused of going around congress and shaping the law the way he want it. >> the president need to come to congress and make the case to congress on the policy merits and then it's up to the congress to act. it's not up to the president to make this the law by the stroke of the executive pen. helps reduce the risk of heartisease. it seems that 80 is the new 18. grannies, bless...

>> okay, so on the merits, if the company's need flexibilities, then the solution is not to ignore the law to pretend that the law allows this sort of thing to happen. the solution is for the president to come to congress and make the case to congress on the policy merits of this question that congress needs to act. and then it's up to congress to act at that point. it is not the president's prerogative to simply make this the law by the stroke of the executive pen. >> senator lee, congressman becerra, thank you for coming in today. we'll stay on top of all this story and i suspect we'll have ...

Senator. a lot has been made of president obama promising to use his executive pen and phone, whatever that means -- not sure -- and you pushed back on that. i believe there's new news you plan to introduce legislation make sure that you can overturn executive action. can you explain that? >> we have something called the restoration of separation of powers. separation of powers is something our founding fathers intended to have checks and balances, and the president seems to think not only is he president, he is the congress also. so, our bill would give people standing, congressmen as well as...

Point he doesn't think we need to do this, they can do it piecemeal. they're going to lose their base and when they lose their base, they will not win. >> will you run third party candidates against them in november? >> i mean, we're not running any third party candidates, but there are going to be primary challenges, i mean, leading up to november. not only in the senate but in the house. >> let me ask you something. because the president's whole point about the executive pen, i'm fascinated. because first of all -- >> aren't you a strong believer in executive order? >> that's clear. i was go...

Benefitting right now and there will be millions more, and then we'll have a constituency. >> if you have a republican senate and a republican in the white house, you can do away with it. >> what are you going to do with it? >> he's saying it would be unpopular because people are relying on it. fwl something you said earlier, he used the executive pen to allow 800,000 immigrants to have amnesty. >> it wasn't amnesty. >> of course, it is. >> it's for college students who -- >> earned their right to stay, yeah. however, do you think he's going to talk about it, saying i used the executive pen to...