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Keeping him from lying under oath. >> robert mueller being quoted even if its not mueller who was interviewed, the mueller team -- the mueller in this excerpt says i need the president's testimony. what was his intent on comey? i want to see if there was corrupt intent. that certainly squares with what we need -- with what is going on with the investigation. >> what we know. according to the book, the special counsel still would like to sit down with the president of the united states. i think this -- if this book does nothing else today its significant. on the day that the president's supreme...

That, and that could ultimately undercut the aca, pre-existing conditions in particular. the democrats are concerned he may strike that down. also on executive powers, as joan just mentioned, how he views investigations of a sitting president. also on roe. they believe i had private comments to senators that roe versus wade is settled law is not enough. they plan to poke holes in that to suggest he would not be a reliable vote and could very well overturn the landmark ruling. >> you mentioned one of the things democrats are going to look for is his truthfulness. it's a reminder that kavanaugh ...

Wade is settled law. but, of course, saying something is settled law doesn't really mean much because while lower court judges have to file a supreme court precedent, a supreme court justice can vote to overturn precedent, and that's what supporters of abortion rights, that's what they're worried about. and democrats,ana, are going to make that opinion once again front and center during these hearings. >> of course, the mueller probe is likely to come up on this issue of executive powers? >> exactly. some of the democrats will say, look, kavanaugh has believed very strongly in executive power,...

Investigation and the issue that i was just talking about with nina about executive privilege, excuse me, executive powers. how do you think he'll answer those questions in his hearings? >> well, you know, i don't think that the justice breyer or justice ginsburg recused themselves from cases involving bill clinton, for example, supreme court case paula jones versus clinton went all the way to the court. they didn't recuse themselves from that. so i be would surprised if any j judicial nominee would say it's appropriate to recuse yourself as long as the president nominated you is still preside...

>> susan, a president does have broad powers, but do you think he understands the -- how much power the -- how much executive powers, his own executive powers? >> look, i think that he is threatening the mueller investigation with increasing intensity. you have him for the first time in tweets in recent days personally attacking special counsel mueller and calling him disgusting not just the rigged witch hunt investigation, going after him personally. and he's still going after his attorney general jeff sessions. i think all of it is a piece in recent days where you really see the president's ...