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Tell you, you should also know that barack obama and his inaugural address said we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. he is in danger of for getting that lesson. if he signs the national defense authorization act, an act that both dick durbin and tom harkin and senator jim demint all opposed that is a betrayal of our ideals. >> i'm glad to hear you say that. talked to a senator who voted against it yesterday. senator from delaware who voted for it. still going back and forth on twitter about what the act does. it's ambiguous in a way that's maddening. the first frenc...

That is -- those are some of the demands being put forth by the protesters, but in fact the regime as opposed to president mubarak is still very much in place. in fact, today i spoke to one analyst in cairo. he said, espectively we've already entered the post mubarak era, that suleiman is the strong man, he's in control of the apparatus of the state, whether that be the police, the intelligence services and the army. that really the only thing that is changing is mubarak is being gradually phased out of the picture. gradually stripped of his real presidential executive powers, and we just have...

Apparatus of the state, whether that be the police, the intelligence services and the army. that really the only thing that is changing is mubarak is being gradually phased out of the picture. gradually stripped of his real presidential executive powers, and we just have a new strong man in his place. >> ivan, the situation in the square is what, now? >> well, the interesting change we're seeing is that -- whereas before all these demonstrators were preparing for battle against the promubarak thugs, now they've shifted their tactics and they're focusing on this much more deadly threat, which i...

Presidential executive powers, and we just have a new strong man in his place. >> ivan, the situation in the square is what, now? >> well, the interesting change we're seeing is that -- whereas before all these demonstrators were preparing for battle against the pro-mubarak thugs, now they've shifted their tactics and they're focusing on this potentially much more deadly threat, which is the military itself. you see columns of egyptian soldiers in full riot gear, periodically marching in front of the barricades, a definite show of force, demonstrators are sitting -- not behind the barricades h...

That all of this liberalism that she's lived with all her life can be put in her proper place and when she gets to be a judge, she'll be left of center. >> chris: senator feinstein, there are some liberal groups who are worried about kagan and her record. let's put something on the screen. they note she supported a ban on partial birth abortions. she argues for strong executive powers. she says enemy combatants can be held indefinitely. are you convinced that if confirmed, she will vote with the liberal wing of the court? >> well, i'm not going to get into whether she votes with the liberal wi...