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First i need a favor. and what's the favor? to investigate my principle opponent or a principle opponent in an upcoming election. asking them to directly interfere and intervene in the election. and i think that is an abuse of power and something that obviously the congress is going to need to look into. you know, nancy pelosi was reluctant to go down this path but i think once the whistle-blower complaint came out, i think she had no choice and i think the right thing to do is to investigate this and then render a judgment. whether he in fact abused his office. but i think the facts are prett...

But is the issue then the evolving and the changing explanations to why director comey was fired or does it not matter? >> well, i think the president's lawyers are positioning of arguing it doesn't matter. as a constitutional issue, you can take, i think with some support, that the president can fire any of his subordinate officials for any reason or no reason and merely looking at the reason the president did it is infringement on the executive prerogative. i think that is probably where they will start on the legal negotiation. the problem with it and clearly giuliani walking back the prior...

Is somehow never trickling down into any other thing. and that's really not the truth of the matter. >> that isn't what i said either. >> i'm not going to quote you verbatim, but the gist of what you were saying is in fact that. but i think the larger point we all can agree the president of the united states certainly does have executive prerogative to do a lot of things but what he cannot do is usurp the authority or try to undermine confidence in the system that he is supposed to be leading. >> okay. let ken respond. go ahead, ken. >> yeah, look, sally yates didn't defend a defensible legal ...

Hire. >> and so he should be able to fire her because she's not and it didn't have -- >> yes. >> -- anything to do with the fact that she said flynn was dirty. and he had to resign that same month. he did it the day after she briefed the white house. >> i wish we saw this indignation -- >> i think you see it in mueller. >> gentlemen, gentlemen, if i may. there is an adult in the room. if i can say this to you, he also fired yates not simply because of michael flynn. he fired yates because she refused to back an executive order, which is really many people argue those can be usurpations of legi...

Because of michael flynn. he fired yates because she refused to back an executive order, which is really many people argue those can be legislative authority, ken, and the idea that the executive order was unconstitutional in her mind about the travel ban which ultimately never actually saw full implementation. >> right, which was totally out of line on her part. >> well, let -- that may be your interpretation, but your statement was that the president of the united states in his executive prerogative can do what he will and his frustration is never trickling down to any thing. >> that isn't w...