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To, or best way to get on his good side again is to make sure that you go out of your way to be trumpian in that way. show you're on his side and this seems like a part of that aspect, but as was just said, they are continuing to lean on this executive privilege argument. it's one that may run out of steam. it can only be taken away if there's a ruling on that. that's what we're see and really interesting is mark meadows is a former member of congress, and what he knows is that congress has to be able to investigate, a subpoena, and to do its job of oversight, and the more you chip away at tha...

Katie, i want to plea you meadows giving his own justification and then ask what the ramifications could be, given that as he said, they've done one criminal referral. take a listen. do we have that? yeah, there we go. >> we found that in spite of our cooperation and sharing documents with them, they had issued, and the noes to us, without even a courtesy call, a shoot a subpoena to third-party carrier trying to get information. at this point, we feel like it's best that we discontinue to honor the executive privilege and it looks like the courts are gonna have to weigh in on this. onna have t...

That these cases are not falling out in the exact same way but people in the periphery are watching them and they know criminal contempt is on the table, which is why it was our understanding that meadows agreed to cooperate in the first place. he's given over 6,000 documents. he's among the people who have been subpoenaed for their phone records for the telecommunications companies. and then as we move forward and look at that exclusive reporting by cnn, amazing reporting from my colleagues, there are people who are under investigation by doj wrapped up in that subpoena as well. there is a we...

White house, very close at the time january 6th went down, his claims of executive privilege as garrett knows, seems stronger. >> yes. i mean, this is a decision that the u.s. attorney's office will have to make. if congress finds they are in contempt. there are two ways, executive privilege is strongest for the advisers in the president's immediate orbit and nobody is closer than that than the chief of staff. le would seem to have a strong executive privilege argument. on the other hand, the courts long said only applies to discussions of a president's official duties. so, question, is talkin...

Of his executive privilege argument. >> well, ana, this is yet another infirmity problem with mark meadows executive privilege argument. a privilege is inherently a confidential communication between two people. if one writes a book about it generally speaking you've given up that privilege and you're have a former administration asking for executive privilege that looks like it will be shot down in the court and these conversations aren't covered by executive privilege because they appear to deal with wrongdoing and not policy decisions. the game plan looks like delay across the board. >> the...