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New lawyers for an executive privilege argument to keep a lot of mueller's finding secret. we have chris holland, a democrat from maryland. thanks for being with us. >> brianna, good to be with you. >> why is making this report public even an issue for the president, do you think? >> well, because he's afraid that it will expose information that will either show him liable of colluding with the russians or obstruction of justice. obviously we don't know what's in the mueller report. we don't know if those are the findings, but the fact that the president wants to deep-six it and keep it from t...

Claimed their client is innocent. two, both seem worried that their client has obstructed justice. and three, they both seem to admit in public statements that end up in the newspapers that their client will perjure himself. >> of course they have to fight the mueller report going public. because the information and the conclusions reached in that report will be devastating for this president, pratt president those around him and the presidency. it is very difficult to avoid the conclusion that the president deliberately committed obstruction of justice when he still addt it on twitter to rech...

>> was she in there with an attorney today. >> she had a few attorneys with her. >> what is it like when she deems out of bounds? what happens? >> the answers, you know, that they would take it under advisement or they weren't going to answer the question which i thought was incredibly arrogant to say we're just not going to answer. we asked why? we're not going to answer. >> i'm confused here. it seems that her conversations with the president in the white house are actually things that plausibly you can make an executive privilege argument to cover. >> sure. >> but that just would come from ...

Bank shot. but did you, as you watched this, see an attempt by sessions to set up a potential executive privilege argument by the president? >> it certainly sounded like he was sounding the alarms and saying, mr. president, if you're listening, this is the time to exert executive privilege. but i'm not sure that's exactly what was going on. i'm just wondering in response to your last question, where are the staff who are willing to talk truth to power? where are the people who are willing to stand up and say, mr. president, this is wrong. you can't have this conversation. none of them did that...

Earshot of the attorney general? in other words, why would the attorney general leave? why wouldn't he stay? the only matter substantively that he was not permitted to be in on are those matters that relate in some way to the russia investigation. >> jill, this is a bit of a bank shot, but did you -- as you watched this -- see an attempt by sessions to set up a potential executive privilege argument by the president? >> it certainly sounded like he was sounding the alarms and saying mr. president if you are listening this is the time to exert executive privilege. i'll not exactly sure that was...