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I'm dianne gallagher in kentucky. this is cnn. former trump white house counsel patsy pallone has been subpoenaed by a federal grand jury investigating the return of the 2020 election. sources tell cnn, cipollone and his attorneys are discussing ways that they're going to handle this appearance before the grand jury, including how to deal with executive privilege issues. that's what the source says. abc news, first to report the subpoena. i want to bring in cnn's global affairs analyst. good evening to you. how big of a deal is a subpoena, ellie? tell us about the impact of this cooperation,...

Hostages to this dangerous and e rational man. >> cnn learned former president donald trump's white house counsel pat cipollone will probably agree to a trance crimed interview with the january 6th committee. a lawyer familiar with his thinking said he could sit for an interview limited to specific topics to avoid executive privilege issues. let's discuss it with elie honig and allen rosenstein. gentlemen, always great to have both of you here. welcome, allen. i haven't spoken with you in person before. ellie, let me start with you. when we talk about what is on the table or off potentially in...

Certainly be calling out, you know, gosar and jordan and perry and if they give meadows a pass, it would only be because he's already sort of in the mau of the department of justice for the criminal contempt charges. so -- and he is the chief of staff, after all. that makes harder executive privilege issues. so i think he is in probability terms, yasmin, not top of the charts. but i think these six members of congress better be getting lawyers. >> so here is the thing. "new york times" reporting basically that these republicans -- they are very adept at running out the clock. of avoiding testi...

Branch for the future -- >> if you're a lawyer in the white house you're not rolling over on the executive privilege issues. >> let me jump in there, because the white house has yet to assert executive privilege. what the white house asserted which no white house asserted was absolute immunity. all white houses in the past have negotiated with congress and they say this is privileged and nixon did it, clinton did it, i don't know what andrew johnson did, i was a young child. >> on fast and furious, obama said pounds sand and they went to the courts and it got worked out after they went to the ...

Defense of the case. i think in some respects, it's case closed. the evidence is in. the testimony has been received. yeah, we might hear from john bolton down the road or some additional witness. but for the most part, the factual predicate is there. it's now really a legal issue, a constitutional issue as to whether or not this body of facts constitutes bribery, treason, or a high crime and misdemeanor. >> mike, talk about the conflict in the white house counsel's office that was going on during the time period of your reporting tonight. >> well, the white house counsel's office was trying t...