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Stay and done what jeffrey rosen did. it's hard for me, given his history, to really give a lot of credit to bill barr. i don't think we know the answer. i think matt hit the nail on the head saying that the real issue here is what kind of reforms we're going to have and what kind of transparency we're going to have. one of the things that your question raises is, a, we don't know the facts yet and all of them. and it really is for garland to step up and for congress to step up, because the public is entitled to know. the second is, everything you are describing is something that is permissibl...

Waco. she challenged him. >> and this is one of the things that eric holder disagreed with was bill barr's explanation. unified executive theory at the federalist society and eric holder disagreed and said that they' they're quasi independent. and all the power is manifested in the united states and everyone else is derivative of that. neil: you seem to know a lot about the law. thank you. >> thank you. neil: matt whitaker, i hope you have a merry christmas, my friend. and impeachment articles to the full house, we kind of know the drill, the political numbers. what if i told you in the senate...

Updates and let me refresh my memory, too much of that on substantive matters will get you indicted. >> i agree with you both. defiance is all that's left for giuliani, pompeo, mulvaney, perry. no coincidence in paragraph two of the executive summary, guess who gets called out as potential co-conspirators, perry, mulvaney, pompeo. ag barr thinks that the president can't be investigated, indicted, tried, convicted or imprisoned because of this crazy executive theory. there is no such thing as an olc memo that protects a secretary of state, secretary of energy, omb director or acting chief of st...

Just on my own declare this investigation illegitimate. what the judge appears to have done is huh-uh, not in america. you have legitimate investigations by the congress of the united states and those will go forward, and you will provide that evidence and testimony. >> and, neal, the other thing that i'm reading as i'm going through this, and it's always tricky to read a case on live tv. but we do it from time to time, all of us here together, so ride with us. on page 39, i see a judge really sledding what has become known to some degree as bill barr's executive theory. he is not the only one...

Constitution. the rest of us don't believe in this executive theory, that the president and the attorney general seem to believe in. that the president can do anything he wants. congress has oversight rights. they have the tax and spend because, they allocated the money for ukraine. the president held up that aid money. this is a very clear violation of the separations of duty. ambassador bolton hold the key to a lot of the secrets. >> harris: we may or may not hear from him before his book comes out. real quickly, trump impeachment and removal from office, among independents right now, trendi...