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Provide more access to abortion care. >> so joe, let's play this out a little bit. since the 70s, and this is the polling by the, way the exit polling that we saw that inflation with the number one issue for some voters. abortion was a very close second. this has generally been in motivating thing for republicans. since the 70s. for whatever reason, maybe it's because roe made abortion legal in america, it was not motivating for democrats. has this now permanently changed? is abortion now in the column of, fundamental rights that need to be protected in a world where we are worried about funda...

Arizona, kirsten cinema will be up. manchin in west virginia. you have debbie stabenow in michigan a lot of targets in 2024. >> laura: tom, there's insights about the independent exit polling last night. what did you see there? >> well, that's probably to me the most stunning thing about the exit polls that the democrats won independents by two points. if you look back at midterm elections, independents have traditionally sided with the party -- the out party, you know, the party that's seeking change, not for the status quo. i mean, by, you know, 10, 12, 15, 20 points. 2010, 2014, 2018; so, t...

When can we win? so scott, first, you where did it go so wrong for republicans? who is responsible for doing something in the bed. >> that is a funny headline. i think the cnn exit polling that we conducted told the tale, as you pointed out, biden was popular, his policies were popular, there was a lot of pessimism and anger in the country, but independent voters behaved unexpectedly. normally you would expect them to break against the party in power, and they sort of split, and in some of the key senate races actually backed the democrats. i think it is because republicans have a donald trump...

Presidential race. then you go to 2022, there have been losses there, too. so i think you're seeing, erica, some, some elements of discontent within the republican party about donald trump. i hesitate to say that's the entire party. i think we have to be careful in making generalizations like that. but there's at least some. >> yeah. remember on january 7th, 2021, there were a lot of folks pronouncing the end of the trump right reign as it were and things change nd the wake of that. when we look at a potential trump desantis showdown here, first of all, is that realistic? does desantis openly ...

Why that occurred. take a look at those who said they somewhat disapproved of joe biden's job performance, and then say, okay, who did they choose in their vote for congress? 11% of the electorate. it's an important size and voted for democrats by four points, so there's this portion of the electorate that didn't like what biden was doing but didn't hate it and decided to go with democrat. >> why? >> why did they decide to go with democrats? because this turned into a choice election. if you look at our exit polling and say, okay, did you have a favorable view of the democratic party, republic...