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All right. the money, let's start there. at a certain point, the justness of these two men, who are accused of this pattern, getting the biggest chunk of the money. but, two, can you move all this money around to pay for these claims without running afoul of the law in terms of disclosure of a public company? >> well, there's two things. on the payouts, you know, what i find fascinating is that fox news sign the bill o'reilly to a new contract in march, fully knowing "the new york times" had this major -- >> was working on this story. this was being chatted about. >> as a very senior person in...

>> well, there's two things. on the payouts, you know, what i find fascinating is that fox news sign the bill o'reilly to a new contract in march, fully knowing "the new york times" had this major -- >> was working on this story. this was being chatted about. >> as a very senior person inside the company told me, they went in this with eyes wide open. they new o'reilly's baggage but he was too good for business. their philosophy was let's see how this plays out. maybe the times story will blow over and we have bill o'reilly in the chair. it didn't work out that way, so contractually they were ...