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Expe explanation of why they say it was lawfully made, the material related to the indictment would have increased the risk that the defendant, roger stone, would flee and destroy or tamper with evidence do you think that was a credible concern of theirs? >> i don't believe so -- >> you don't think roger would run? >> i don't believe he would run, i'm not going to say he would or would not obstruct justice, what i would say is that aaron lewinsky was in the courtroom in florida today. he interviewed me and the other associates, and i found what they did not include yet in this indictment is as...