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Business and you spend that money, submit an expense report to yourself and get paid back by yourself. that's a great way to keep the things separate. folk that is finance you are going to want to see you're taking the steps to keep your business separate. >> it is so easy to throw it on the same credit card, cash, not pay attention, it will work out in the end and it doesn't. >> it never does. it never does. >> beg and borrow but don't steal. i hope that this is intuitive to don't steal. but you don't really mean steal. >> yeah, obviously. don't steal, but the beg part, this is about going ou...

Funding for their business. it might be the question we get the most. so our next guest has some expert advice about key things you want to consider when asking for money. robert furwine is the co-founder and ceo of cabbage, a group dedicated to helping established online retailers get access to capital. it's great to see you. >> thanks for having me on. >> as i said, this is a question we get the most. and i think a lot of times people don't know how to go about actually doing the asking, what parameters do you set, how do you say something? who do you talk to? i want to go through your sugge...

Than just put it on my tax form at the end of the year. you actually if you're a small business, and you spend that money, submit an expense report to yourself, and get paid back by yourself. that's a great way of keeping those things separate, and folks that finance you are going to want to see that you're taking the step to keep your business separate. >> it is so easy, right, to just throw everything, credit card, cash, not fay attention at all. >> and it never does. >> okay. beg and borrow, but don't steal. i hope that this is intuitive don't steal. but you don't really mean steal. >> no, ...

Became the fourth and fifth countries to request euro bailout funds. >> and orbits found that people who access their web sites on mac computers tend to spend $10 to $20 more on hotel rooms. orbits admits they're experimenting with steering mac users to more expensive options. >> we go to willie now. >> what do you buy, willie? >> a lot of miscellaneous charges on my expense report. that's the best way to hide them. >> ew, ew. you're yucky. >> let's talk about the piece you guys have up right now about darrell issa, saying he doesn't think the white house covered

The inspector general. did the white house or inspector general know 11 months ago for? or learn after the report came out? >> it would be hard to learn after. >> so they learn when the investigation started? >> yes, they have to give information to review. expense report, bids, proposals to be reviewed. there will be the hotel records. there is all sorts of documents that can only be obtained from the agency, itself. >> greta: how much of a mess is this in government? spending and waste. >> i can't tell you how much this bothers me. what you worry about, you see at least it seems to me within...