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Going? going the other direction from a game change moment? >> i think romney would be picking the guy with the suitcase with no handle. you want the spot light on barack obama and his economic failure. portman has a problem, george bush. i think somebody to watch would be bobby jindal who is vetted and out there and has a terrific record. at the end of the day you don't want the vice presidential choice to draw the spot light. >> do you see him as formidable? >> bobby jindal? >> no, portman. >> i think either portman or ryan allows democrats to make a strong argument about the economic past o...

>> but you can have the optimism about your policies. >> what does that mean? >> i think the problem for president obama is his campaign message has devolved down to this is as good as it gets which leaves mitt romney i think a tremendous opportunity to be moses and say follow me. we can do better. >> i know there is disagreement about that point. i want to cover some other topics around the table a little more quickly. first one is gop veep stakes. this caught my eye from the wall street journal piece this week talking about the buzz around portman from ohio. the case for ohio is simple. if t...

First one is gop veepstakes. this caught my eye from the wall street journal piece this week talking about the buzz around rob portman from ohio. the un-palin. the case for ohio is simple. if the goal is to avoid a palin-like experience portman is the un-palin of 2012. his resumé is sterling. no chance his credentials would be questioned. little chance he would hurt the ticket and only a slim chance he would commit a distracting gaff. is this where you see romney going? going the other direction from a game change moment? >> i think romney would be picking the guy with the suitcase with no ha...