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To be some other explanation for it, and they've latched on to this russia story, and every time they trot out a new theory or leak or a new explosive document or piece of intelligence, it crumbles right away. we've seen this time after time, and this is the latest version. >> tucker: it would -- it's a significant statement to say maybe the whole thing is false. i think i'm approaching that conclusion because i don't see evidence otherwise, but if it really is a lie at its core, i mean, man, we've spent an awful lot of time on this as a country. >> well, i think we need to distinguish between...

There has got to be some other explanation for it, and they have latched onto this precious story. every time they trot out a new theory or a new leak or a new explosive document or piece of intelligence, it crumbles right away. you've seen this throughout the past year, time after time, this is the latest version. >> tucker: it is a significant statement to say maybe the whole thing is false. i think i'm approaching that conclusion because i don't see evidence otherwise. but if it really is a lie at its core, i mean, man, we spent an awful lot of time on this as a country. >> i think we need ...

There has got to be some other explanation for it, and they have latched onto this precious story. every time they trot out a new theory or a new leak or a new explosive document or piece of intelligence, it crumbles right away. you've seen this throughout the past year, time after time, this is the latest version. >> tucker: it is a significant statement to say maybe the whole thing is false. i think i'm approaching that conclusion because i don't see evidence otherwise. but if it really is a lie at its core, i mean, man, we spent an awful lot of time on this as a country. >> i think we need ...