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Is essentially 17 memoranda have two as they relate to page and relate to his conversations with the head of the russian national oil company, and it relates to the relief of sanctions. >> okay let's set that aside for a moment because i want to zero in on the memo and what we learned. you heard michael zeldin make the point that the central allegation of how -- you know this was all about the dossier, you know and how this warrant was obtained not backed up by the evidence there but also prior to the release you had the fbi and members of the intelligence community throwing hands in the air s...

2016. we know from our reporting that papadopoulos told an australian ambassador that the russians had dirt on hillary clinton and the ambassador told the fbi, and that kicked everything off. the memo tried to make it seem there was no connection between page and papadopoulos, no communication. how could the papadopoulos bit of this be relevant to the the carter page fisa warrant? >> what i think is interesting about the fact that they included this piece is it does undermine their overall point. they're saying the fisa application was predicated on carter page and the steele dossier. we know ...

The election if they had a basis whatsoever. >> they didn't publishize didn't go public at all. >> no one knew about it. >> what was about the impact on the identification if it was in private as fisa court requests are always done? >> i'm asking instead what did they need that information so intently for that they had to engage in something like this within two weeks before an election? i think that is suspicious. but we're not going to know on this until we get to the end of it. and if we remember -- i do remember watergate. it took a long time to get all the pieces out. and that's one of th...

American people by claiming their sources and methods being jeopardized. i read this there is zero damage to sources and methods. the only reason timothy try to fight it because it embarrassing that's not good enough reason. >> do you think the director wray was right in that he was concerned there were some critical omissions? >> well let -- let them. >> the informations are the other information used to get the application. >> but let's deal with that. let's have an investigation look at the facts. let's stop talking about what trump intended what somebody else intended. it is what i would s...

Happened and petered out. it's funny i asked this question last night, you know, what if just the fbi and doj were doing their jobs and discovered an american who might be talking to russians and explore and found more evidence went back to the judge, isn't that a plausible explanation for what they were up to here? >> it's pretty extraordinary if you think about it, the fact that the fbi, the hand pick fbi directors come out basically said look this causes grave concerns to release this. the white house in conjunction with house republicans basically ignored that and release this memo today a...